As the world of AI agents evolves, TinyFish co-founder Shuhao Zhang and CTO Mark Peng joined OpenAI’s Dmitry Pimenov for a candid discussion about where the technology is heading — and what it means to build systems that operate across the web at different scales.

The three explore the complementary paths TinyFish and OpenAI are taking, the growing distinction between consumer and enterprise agents, and their shared excitement for how the field is advancing on both fronts.